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Well, after meandering around in the countryside for about a year or so, and annoying many at the track to mull over their campers, we finally found and purchased a toy hauler. We were new to the RV world, so it was a learning experience. One thing I did know at the onset, was they depreciate like a boat or a European car. Before the ink dries, they're worth half. They're were a lot people giving us all kinds of advice and info. Something I heard consistently, was "don't buy too big." I do have a big offshore boat, so I had an idea of what I wanted weight wise.

3 of our Toyota's are rated for about 6100k, so I wanted to stay well below that rating. The purchase came from a local fellow rider who called me recently, and offered me his 2018 Wildwood FSX 180RT for 10k. He kids are bigger now, so he moved up to a 28footer. I went and looked at it, and it is new. It's just me and my wife, so although on the smaller side, it suites us just fine. We need a a shower and a place to sleep. The seller and had performed several upgrades, and left them in place too.

I went and picked it up this evening, and it tows, stops, and corners easily. I used my wife's Sequoia, but my Tundra has electric brakes, so it will be even better on the stopping. It's a single axle, so it is easy to maneuver in tight places. My tires are passenger/light truck tires, but don't think I'll need a higher ply rating, or a sway bar. It weighs 3100 and tongue weight is about 400, and am rated for 700, so I'm well below my Tundras capability. Next weekend is the first round of EMX at Underground, and it's about a 500 mile round trip, so it will be a good test for me and the Tundra.
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Well, this past Friday was our maiden voyage with our toy hauler for the first round of my series. I didn't have time to finish the maintenance on my Tundra, so we decided used my wife's Sequoia. Tundra and Sequoia are basically the same other than the body. It's about a 5 hour drive to the track, which was a little longer than I wanted for a first time pull, but we were going. I wasn't really nervous, just over thinking my list of things to do and have before getting on the road. I normally run 32 p.s.i. in the Sequoia, but raised the rear to 40 p.s.i. and the front to 36p.s.i. The hauler had a max of 70 p.s.i. at full capacity on the tires, so I ran them at 60 p.s.i. Did not have a sway bar or electric brakes.

Previously, I had only towed it through town at low speeds after the purchase. The trailer weighs 3100 empty, so after race bike, pit-bike, 2 5 gallon gas cans, generator, toolbox, gear bag, 4 helmets, 4 boots, 3 bags of "In Case It Breaks", chairs, jack, spare tire, extension cords, dice, playing cards, 2 TV's, cooking, bedding, food, and overnight bags, I'm guessing it was around 4000. I distributed the weight where the Sequoia squatted about 3 inches to a level ride. One quick check of the trailer lighting, proof of insurance, and we headed for I-10.

Through town headed for I-10, the Sequoia easily got off the line and up to 50 m.p.h on the F.M. road towards the I-10 feeder road. I accelerated down the feeder with the O.D. off and blended in with traffic at 70 m.p.h. Leveled off at 70 m.p.h. with the O.D. off, the r.p.m.'s were at about 3200. I switched O.D. back on and it held 70 m.p.h. easily. I didn't bother using the cruise. If I came to a hill, I would let the rig slow down 5 to 10 m.p.h. I certainly could have kept it at 70 m.p.h. but was not going to work the transmission no harder than necessary. When we were on the F.M. roads at lower speeds, I would switch the O.D. off.

As far as a sway-bar, tow vehicle tire ply rating, and stability, the rig towed absolutely smoothly. No side to side or up and down swaying. When an 18 wheeler would pass us, it didn't try to push us off of the road, but what I could feel was a tug trying to slow us down for just a second, but it was still steady. I tried a couple of panic stops when I was in an isolated area, and it stopped surprisingly quick. But I'll buy the module for my Tundra, and add a full system to her Sequoia just for the extra stopping power in case I get surprised. We made a few stops on the way there, and it being a single axle, and a smaller hauler, it was easy to maneuver in parking-lots, although I would check things out before I just nosed in some place that would have tested my 11 point turn around skills.

When we arrived at the track, we already had full hook ups reserved, so we didn't have to use the generator. Got everything set up, hauler leveled out, water, sewer, and electricity connected. We set up our ole half crippled, blind and deaf dog Astro on a cable, and that was home for the weekend. It was neat to come back from a race, and have a place to snack, eat, nap, movies, or play Farkle. After a day of racing, we were home, no loading up for the motel. The mornings were wonderful too; wake up, and you were there. And there was Seaport Dark Roast awaiting on the counter.

We're going to like this motel on wheels thing, and more than just for the track too. She already has a West Texas trip planned out. We also have a few small upgrades in the making too.
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Update on Toy Hauler purchase.

As mentioned in an above post, our first pull was about a 500 mile round trip with our Sequoia, and it did well. A couple of weeks ago, I finally got to use my Tundra, and as I expected, it did well too. Although I did a quick local highway run with it before the trip, this was about a 200 mile round trip to round 2 of our series. Although my initial local test run did well with no trailer brakes, I installed the trailer module before this trip. My Tundra has factory wiring, so the module install was quick and easy. Although I thought it stopped well without trailer brakes, the module really shortened up the stopping distance if needed. I set the level knob, and have the brakes at about 10% ahead of the truck, and you can lightly apply the brakes for a smooth casual stop.

The truck itself easily gets up to speed, and goes into lock up. I can come through a small town at 45 m.p.h. with it in lock up, and slowly get back to highway speed without it coming out of lock up. Or if I want a quicker acceleration, I can ease into the throttle and it comes out of lock up, or just hit the o.d. button. It's a very casual non stressful tow. As far as a sway bar, as of right now I don't think I'll need it for either vehicle. Both are very stable horizontally and vertically. I tested both vehicles at various speeds with sudden steering movements and while braking. The trailer is 3100 lbs empty, and I'm estimating 4000 lbs loaded. Especially with my Tundra with those over kill Bilstein shocks. As far as tongue weight, my Tundra is rated at 700 lbs and I'm estimating I'm at about 400 lbs. Oh, and on a somewhat related subject, all Love's truck stop have black/grey water dumps. I had no idea. Eventually when I remove a couple of trees from my fence line where I can park the T.H. on the other side, I'll tap into my sewer line. Right now I have water and electricity, but that will give me all 3 when at rest at home.

Just for fun, I wanted to see how my ole FJ80 (94) would tug this thing down the road. I latched onto it, and headed for the highway. It's geared pretty short so I figured it would accelerate easily, and it did. I turned onto the highway and got up to speed quite readily. I leveled off at 65 m.p.h. and that would be it's optimum cruise. Any faster would be pushing the 4.5 L6. It may have been the most stable of all of my Toyota's (it's very heavy). A few years ago it needed shocks, so I installed some super duper, rock smasher shocks on it. It's never off-road, but they looked cool. It never wavered/ wondered, or strayed. It did stopped pretty good, and although it won't be the intended tow vehicle, I'm going to install trailer brakes on it just in case it's needed. Although it's in good shape and reliable, I would likely just use it to the Houston area within a 100 miles of home.

I have some plans for it too. First I removed the spare tire from the thru under compartment, and installed it side saddle on the tongue area. That uncluttered and freed up that storage area. I went down to our local metal fab shop, and they have some 2x4 aluminum box tubing. I'm going to add an observation deck on top too. I'm probably not going to go full length so I don't have to deal with the a.c. unit. Probably about 7x12 area. The four sided railing will be on pivots, and locked together with quick pins when stood up in position. As far as shade, I'll keep it simple. I small 6x6 (or there a bouts) canopy and simply tied down to the railing when opened up. When the railing is folded down, the canopy can stay up there closed with a tie down across it. I'll also add on some l.e.d. lighting around the perimeter of the square frame.

Ok, enough yacking, I've just added to my project list that ain't getting no shorter, especially with grand kids on that list too.
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